God's Existence, Science and Faith, Suffering and Evil, Jesus' Resurrection, and Book Reviews

Saturday, May 28, 2011

God Your Way, Right Away

Everyone who's read this blog for a while or have talked with me extensively on worldview issues, knows that I am really big on defining terms. Anytime that I'm on the sidelines of a heated discussion and notice that the conversation can be cooled a bit by the participants understanding the other's terms, I point it out- it normally works to help understanding, but not necessarily agreement.

Example: The Problem of Evil
An easy way to show that something does not exist is to provide a definition then show how that definition is not in keeping with reality. Many of the objections to God's existence by atheists come in this form. Here is a common example:
  1. There is obviously evil in this world. 
  2. God would not allow evil to exist. 
  3. Therefore, God does not exist.

An atheist who raises this objection has defined "God" as a supreme being who would not allow evil to exist and is obtaining his conclusion based on that definition. The problem is that most theists would agree that this "God" defined by the atheist does not exist! The atheist is quite rational with his conclusion, based on his definition of "God". This would throw off many who hold this definition of "God", especially when the theist concedes the conclusion but follows up with, "...but that's not the God I'm defending."

If someone is to avoid a conclusion, they need to demonstrate that either the logic is not valid or that one of the premises is false. The logic in this particular argument is valid, and the second premise is not under dispute by this particular atheist and the theist. However, the theist will dispute the truth of the first premise. Because of this, the theist does not accept the conclusion. But didn't I just say in the paragraph above that the theist would gladly accept the atheist's conclusion? Yes, but notice that is dependent on the acceptance of the first premise.

Defining "God"
Notice that in the first premise we are working with different definitions here. These different definitions are not typically made clear in a debate forum or in discussion. The people who are on the side of the atheist make the same assumed definition and project that assumption onto everyone (including theists). As a result, they get frustrated (and even indignant) because they don't see how such an obvious conclusion is being denied. The same goes for the theists in the group. They are assuming their definition of "God" and projecting it onto everyone, including the atheists. The same result occurs: they get frustrated (and even indignant too) when they see that the atheists do not accept such an obvious conclusion. Both sides appear to have valid points and be correct in their conclusions...but only to those who assume the same definition of "God".

This is just one example of where differing and assumed definitions can cause confusion. I have more on the importance of defining terms in the post "The Importance of Defining Terms".

An Example: Ketchup vs. Catsup
I have also heard several atheists and agnostics say that they are looking for God but haven't found him. I have had quite a difficult time in the past understanding this claim. But then I realized (based on their objections) that they were searching for a god based on what they wanted God to be (their own definition of "God"). If you are looking for something that is not there (does not exist, in this case), you won't find it. Let me put forth an example of what I'm talking about: Let's say that someone asked me to bring them some ketchup; I go look through the refrigerator and come back saying that there is no ketchup. They insist that I go look again. Instead of just looking in the door (where I keep ketchup), I look on the shelves and in all the drawers- nothing. I go back telling them where all I have looked. They insist that they are not out of ketchup. Frustrated with their ignorant insistence, I (smugly and obnoxiously) take them over to the fridge and ask this question: "Do you see anything red, in a tall, plastic container labeled 'k-e-t-c-h-u-p'?! No? Then we agree that you are out of ketchup." (I purposely made that last sentence a statement not a question) They smile and slowly walk me over to the cupboard and show me the short, plastic container that is holding a green substance with the label "catsup".

What was wrong with this? I assumed that my friend's idea of ketchup was the same as mine, not to mention the fact that I was looking in the wrong place too. Our definitions were different and we assumed that the other held the same definition. When my friend realized that I was looking for something that did not exist, he showed me what did exist. At that point, it would have been stupid of me to insist that he was still out of ketchup, instead I should change my definition of "ketchup" and acknowledge that I was looking for the wrong thing and in the wrong place. 

The Implications
Obviously, if someone is looking for something that does not exist, they won't find it. There are many "gods" (slight differences in definitions) that do not exist. It is easy to prove something does not exist if that specifically defined "something" truly does not exist. It is easy to demonstrate to and be accepted by others if their definition of that "something" is the same as yours. However, if the definitions are different (assumed, so it is not so obvious), the task is not so easy, until the definitions are clearly stated and agreed upon. If the definitions are not agreed upon, then they need to be debated and settled; otherwise, debating the original issue will not be fruitful.

In most debates with atheists, theists would concede quite a few points if they knew the explicit definition that the atheist was using. Then the theist would say, "...however, that is not the God who's existence I am defending." We all have heard the phrase "know who you're fighting against (your enemy)." If the atheist does not know what he's against, he can't bring appropriate objections to the table. If the theist does not understand what he's debating against, he can't bring appropriate objections either. Any objections that are not directed at the correct understanding of the adversary will be seen at red herrings to avoid the issue and will not be taken seriously. Not knowing and understanding your adversary is a commitment of the strawman fallacy. Maintaining a strawman can lead to the strong temptation to resort to ad-hominem attacks.

What To Do
What should we be gaining from this? Well, I have something for both sides of any debate or discussion. First, both sides need to place their specific definitions on the table. Second, both sides need to be able to recognize when they are arguing against something that the other is not defending (strawman), then change to argue against what the other is defending. Otherwise, both sides are just "spinning their tires" and only galvanizing the other's frustrations (bait for ad-hominem attacks).

As a Christian apologist, it is my responsibility to make sure that my definition of "God" is clear. It is also my responsibility to make certain that when I am arguing against another position that I understand what I am arguing against. If my idea of my opposition's idea is incorrect, I need to be humble enough to change my idea to match their's (no matter how much more difficult arguing against the real idea might be).

Of course, when I'm trying to match my ideas to someone else's ideas, I might be tempted to but should not tell them what they believe (different from pointing out implications and inconsistencies). More can be found on this hairy area in my post "Misengaged in Battle".


****Please read my UPDATED post Comments Now Open before posting a comment.****